

I have a thousand questions for you.īB: Yeah, sometimes we go into these podcasts and get halfway through it, and I’m like, “We should make this two sessions,” but from the very beginning, I was like this has got to be a part one and part two because you can’t fix me in one part. You can learn more and sign up at, and of course, we’ll link from our episode page on .īrené Brown: So let me start by saying that I’m so excited that you’re here. His popular 3-2-1 email newsletter is sent out each week to more than one million subscribers. James is a regular speaker at Fortune 500 companies, and his work has been featured in places like Time Magazine, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and on CBS This Morning. He is the author of the number one New York Times best seller, Atomic Habits. James Clear is a writer and speaker focused on habits, decision-making and continuous improvement. It is exactly the type of conversation we all hoped it would be, and we’re so glad you’re here.īG: Before we get started, I want to tell you a little bit more about James. But they also cover how our mindsets and our systems can set us up for success.īG: Just a side note on that, if you’ve heard Brené speak or do any events in the last several months, you’ll know that one thing that she’s been talking a lot about, a very specific quote from James’ book, “You do not rise to the level of your goals, you fall to the level of your systems.” We have been so obsessed with this quote, we’ve really been thinking about our own systems and how that applies to all of the systems that we build here at BBEARG.

They also talk about the intersection of his work and Brené’s work, the collective stories we all make up, and how those stories really can trigger some shame responses that set us up for failure.
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And then they dig into some real strategies about how to make that happen. In this first episode, they talk about identity-based habits and how we can become the architects of our habits, not the victims of them. And it’s interesting because most of the time when we do a two-part series, we get into the conversation and then we decide, “Oh, we need to have one more episode,” but Brené knew before we even got started with James that she had so many questions she wanted to ask him that we just asked him from the beginning, “Can we do two episodes?” and he was all in. Y’all, I took literally almost six pages of notes during this episode. James shares his story with us and gives us some more insight into how he develops his deep understanding of the importance of consistency over intensity when establishing habits to last. So many of us have read Atomic Habits, and it’s so good.īG: But in this episode, we’re going to get to meet the man behind the book.
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This is part one of a two-part series that Brené is doing with James Clear on habits and his book, Atomic Habits, which has sold more than 5 million copies worldwide and has been translated into more than 50 languages. More to come, I think we’re going to talk more about the book on the podcast in the upcoming weeks, but I did get to sneak away so that I could introduce the podcast for you this week. It’s really a culmination of Brené’s work over the last 25 years. Bryan and Cookie have been here trucking boxes up and down the stairs, getting ready for launch, and we could not be more excited about this book, y’all.
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We got four pallets full of our new book, Atlas of the Heart, that comes out November 30th. We’re still not fully back, but there are a few of us here from time to time, and this week we got the most special delivery. I’m up here at the office, I was just going to start with a little sneak peak into what’s been going on with us this week. Barrett Guillen: Hi everyone, I’m Barrett Guillen, and this is Dare to Lead.
